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I am reposting an informative conversation taking place on Econ-Dev@GoogleGroups.com by several economic development professionals and practitioners about the value the creative industries bring to economic development. You can join this public group to learn more and post your comments and ideas at http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev?hl=en
Here is the conversation string to date: From: MStoddard <michael.stodd...@gmail.com>Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz I'm using Many Eyes to visualize data on creative industries in Tacoma, WA. See example below. http://bit.ly/100FZP
Many Eyes is great, but I want more control over the look of the visualizations, specifically the labels on bubble charts. What I've been doing is modifying images from Many Eyes in an image editor. This works OK, but I'm wondering if anyone knows of desktop software (preferably free) that can make bubble charts like those in Many Eyes.
Michael
Michael Stoddard GIS Analyst City of Tacoma Community and Economic Development Department
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 | From: "Chris Gibbons" <cgibb...@littletongov.org>Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:01:19 -0600 Local: Thurs, Apr 9 2009 6:01 pm Subject: RE: [EG] Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz Michael, Talk about where the data came from....how you selected it.
http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev/browse_thread/thread/771d93666af9bb43?hide_quotes=no#msg_65039ded62f1c729-----Original Message----- From: econ-dev@googlegroups.com [mailto: econ-dev@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MStoddard Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:59 PM To: Econ-dev Subject: [EG] Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz
I'm using Many Eyes to visualize data on creative industries in Tacoma, WA. See example below.
http://bit.ly/100FZP
Many Eyes is great, but I want more control over the look of the visualizations, specifically the labels on bubble charts. What I've been doing is modifying images from Many Eyes in an image editor. This works OK, but I'm wondering if anyone knows of desktop software (preferably free) that can make bubble charts like those in Many Eyes.
Michael
Michael Stoddard GIS Analyst City of Tacoma Community and Economic Development Department
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 | From: MStoddard <michael.stodd...@gmail.com>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Local: Fri, Apr 10 2009 12:47 pm Subject: Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz Chris asked how we selected the data on creative industries. Below was our process. I started with these questions: "How do we quantify the creative industry in Tacoma?" "How many employers are there?" "How many employees?" "What categories of businesses fall within the creative industry?" Finding acceptably accurate data on employment is challenging. We decided to use reports available through Americans for the Arts: http://bit.ly/NSkyi.
The reports use Dun and Bradstreet data and include a summary table listing the number of arts-related businesses and employment.
We ordered the reports from Americans for the Arts, but learned that they are not currently available. We had to go in a different direction.
We decided to use the definition of creative industries from Americans for the Arts: http://bit.ly/zFBeY.
The definition lists the SIC codes of creative industries. We used these SIC codes to extract creative industries from a 2008 InfoUSA table of businesses in Tacoma.
Our arts administrator then went through each of the 700+ records and marked the ones that were, in fact, creative industries (and still operating). We called this the InfoUSA list. The data visualization on Many Eyes (http://bit.ly/100FZP) is the InfoUSA list.
The arts administrator also skimmed the entire InfoUSA table to find SIC descriptions of creative industries that were not in the Americans for the Arts definition. I extracted records by these codes and added them to the InfoUSA list.
The arts administrator found that many artists were not in the InfoUSA data, so she started a new list that includes mostly self-employed painters, writers, bands, galleries, etc. We called this the local knowledge list.
What did we learn? We learned that commonly used datasets like InfoUSA leave out many artists. Americans for the Arts came to the same conclusion about Dun and Bradstreet data: "... many individual artists are not included, as not all are employed by a business" (Online source: http://www.artsusa.org/information_services/research/services/creativ..., accessed 4/10/09).
We will put the two lists side by side to show the undercounting of creative industries in commonly used datasets (Dun and Bradstreet, InfoUSA). We will combine the InfoUSA list and the local knowledge list to paint a more accurate picture of creative industries in Tacoma.
Michael
On Apr 9, 3:01 pm, "Chris Gibbons" <cgibb...@littletongov.org> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev/browse_thread/thread/771d93666af9bb43?hide_quotes=no#msg_3f674b93f5a76cee> Michael, > Talk about where the data came from....how you selected it.
> -----Original Message----- > From: econ-dev@googlegroups.com [mailto:econ-dev@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of MStoddard > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:59 PM > To: Econ-dev > Subject: [EG] Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz
> I'm using Many Eyes to visualize data on creative industries in > Tacoma, WA. See example below.
> http://bit.ly/100FZP
> Many Eyes is great, but I want more control over the look of the > visualizations, specifically the labels on bubble charts. What I've > been doing is modifying images from Many Eyes in an image editor. This > works OK, but I'm wondering if anyone knows of desktop software > (preferably free) that can make bubble charts like those in Many Eyes.
> Michael
> Michael Stoddard > GIS Analyst > City of Tacoma > Community and Economic Development Department
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 | From: Ed Morrison <edmorri...@earthlink.net>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:23:24 +0800 Local: Fri, Apr 10 2009 7:23 pm Subject: Re: [EG] Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz Michael:
A little background on the creative industries might be helpful.
Guided by thought leaders like Charles Landry (The Creative City: http://snurl.com/fnhq4 [www_amazon_com] ), the Blair government in the UK introduced the concept of creative industry clusters as a part of a strategic framework for economic development. That was about 1996 or 1997, I recall.
The early work might still be available on the UK government web site, but the current incarnation of the effort can be found here: http://www.creativeclusters.com/
The UK government's work spawned a number of local efforts in the UK, like Creative Edinburgh (http://www.creativedinburgh.co.uk/) in 2003 and Creative London: (http://snurl.com/fnib5) in 2004.
Now the creative industries are part of a number of cities across the globe from Wellington (http://snurl.com/fni1s) to Vienna (http://snurl.com/fnimj ) Frankfurt (http://snurl.com/fnirk).Hong Kong recently announced a major push in this direction: (http://snurl.com/fnj31)
In the US, the move toward pushing the creative industries started, not with Richard Florida, but with the New England Foundation for the Arts (http://snurl.com/fnj6t) In 2000, the NEFA released a report specifically connecting the creative industries with the region's competitiveness. (In traditional economic development creative industries are often relegated to "lifestyle" amenities.) Read more here: http://snurl.com/fnjc0
Florida published his book, The Creative Class, in 2002. Sadly, Richard did not give readers much background on what had been going on in the UK, the work of the NEFA, or the work of Charles Landry, who has pioneered much of the practical application of this concept. (I recommend his book.)
Florida's three T's formulation -- talent, tolerance, and (I forget the third one) -- reduces the sophistication of a creative industries strategy to a virtually useless bumper sticker. Nevertheless, people like my colleague George Robertson tried out some of Florida's ideas. George used the focus on tolerance to launch a strategy to attract Guyanese immigrants to Schenectady. (http://snurl.com/fnju6)
As you can see, I'm not a big fan of Florida's work. While he publicized the opportunities of focusing on creative people, his work does not offer much practical direction.
The deeper flow of helpful critical thinking comes out of the Europe-- NEFA linkages. So, if you are heading in this direction, I recommend Landry as a starting point.
By now, the focus on creative industries is taking hold in the U.S. We are still five to seven years behind what's been happening in the EU. This year, for example, the EU launched the European Year of Creativity and Innovation: http://create2009.europa.eu/
It seems that still outside the US, the connections between creativity and innovation are more explicitly drawn. See, for example, the Institute for Creeative Industries and Innovation in Australia: (http://www.ici.qut.edu.au/ )
A focus on creative clusters has also taken hold in places like Rhode Island ( ) (Rhode Island School of Design) and Savannah: The Creative Coast ( http://www.thecreativecoast.org/) (Savannah College of Art and Design) and Charleston (http://snurl.com/fnkmu ) (Spoleto) > an interesting experiment is underway at Ball State University to establish a nationally prominent center for digital media design in the hopes of sparking new business development. (As the director of the center has said, "Hollywood is rebooting.") (http://snurl.com/ fnl23 )
Vermont has pioneered applying these frameworks to rural communities. http://snurl.com/fnkb2 This strategy is taking hold in rural economies like Western Massachusetts (The Berkshire Creative Economy Project). Other places, like North Central Arkansas are beginning to explore the option. (http://snurl.com/fnl3t )
Last year, Fairfax County in Northern Virginia put a stake in the ground to be a center of creative industries in the US with its Creative Economy web site and symposium: http://www.e-country.org/creative.htm
The Triad region of North Carolina, following the recommendations of consultant Angeles Angelou, has placed a big bet on the creative industries. Not to be outdone by Northern Virginia, they recently announced a National Creativity Symposium: http://snurl.com/fnlgc
So there you have it: a brief road map of the emerging connection between the creative industries and economic development. As you may be able to tell, I think its a big opportunity.
In my view, focusing on the creative industries represents a good setting for applying the tools, insights, and strategies of Economic Gardening.
Ed
On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:47 AM, MStoddard wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev/browse_thread/thread/771d93666af9bb43?hide_quotes=no#msg_1ed90b0951d1f766> Chris asked how we selected the data on creative industries. Below was > our process.
> I started with these questions: "How do we quantify the creative > industry in Tacoma?" "How many employers are there?" "How many > employees?" "What categories of businesses fall within the creative > industry?" Finding acceptably accurate data on employment is > challenging. We decided to use reports available through Americans for > the Arts: http://bit.ly/NSkyi.
> The reports use Dun and Bradstreet data and include a summary table > listing the number of arts-related businesses and employment.
> We ordered the reports from Americans for the Arts, but learned that > they are not currently available. We had to go in a different > direction.
> We decided to use the definition of creative industries from Americans > for the Arts: http://bit.ly/zFBeY.
> The definition lists the SIC codes of creative industries. We used > these SIC codes to extract creative industries from a 2008 InfoUSA > table of businesses in Tacoma.
> Our arts administrator then went through each of the 700+ records and > marked the ones that were, in fact, creative industries (and still > operating). We called this the InfoUSA list. The data visualization on > Many Eyes (http://bit.ly/100FZP) is the InfoUSA list.
> The arts administrator also skimmed the entire InfoUSA table to find > SIC descriptions of creative industries that were not in the Americans > for the Arts definition. I extracted records by these codes and added > them to the InfoUSA list.
> The arts administrator found that many artists were not in the InfoUSA > data, so she started a new list that includes mostly self-employed > painters, writers, bands, galleries, etc. We called this the local > knowledge list.
> What did we learn? We learned that commonly used datasets like InfoUSA > leave out many artists. Americans for the Arts came to the same > conclusion about Dun and Bradstreet data: "... many individual artists > are not included, as not all are employed by a business" (Online > source: http://www.artsusa.org/information_services/research/services/creativ... > , > accessed 4/10/09).
> We will put the two lists side by side to show the undercounting of > creative industries in commonly used datasets (Dun and Bradstreet, > InfoUSA). We will combine the InfoUSA list and the local knowledge > list to paint a more accurate picture of creative industries in > Tacoma.
> Michael
> On Apr 9, 3:01 pm, "Chris Gibbons" <cgibb...@littletongov.org> wrote: >> Michael,
>> Talk about where the data came from....how you selected it.
>> -----Original Message----- >> From: econ-dev@googlegroups.com [mailto:econ-dev@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of MStoddard >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:59 PM >> To: Econ-dev >> Subject: [EG] Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz
>> I'm using Many Eyes to visualize data on creative industries in >> Tacoma, WA. See example below.
>> http://bit.ly/100FZP
>> Many Eyes is great, but I want more control over the look of the >> visualizations, specifically the labels on bubble charts. What I've >> been doing is modifying images from Many Eyes in an image editor. >> This >> works OK, but I'm wondering if anyone knows of desktop software >> (preferably free) that can make bubble charts like those in Many >> Eyes.
>> Michael
>> Michael Stoddard >> GIS Analyst >> City of Tacoma >> Community and Economic Development Department
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 | From: Christine Hamilton-Pennell <chamiltonpenn...@gmail.com>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:58:32 -0600 Local: Fri, Apr 10 2009 8:58 pm Subject: Re: [EG] Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz Ed, Great summary on the creative economy--thanks much for passing this on. I read the policy briefing papers by the Obama campaign on the arts (put out in Sept. 2008), which included a good deal of information about the relationship between the arts, innovation, and the economy. I can't find the actual document on the Web at this point, but if anyone is interested, I'd be glad to email the PDF file.
A decade ago there was a flurry of activity around the relationship of the arts and academic achievement. A research review done by Project Zero at Harvard (Reviewing Education and the Art Project--REAP) in 2000, http://www.pz.harvard.edu/Research/Reap/REAPExecSum.htm, revealed that while there were a few causal links between specific artistic endeavors (listening to and playing music; drama in the classroom), the majority of studies showed no causal effects between arts education and improvement in test scores or academic achievement. One of the conclusions reached by the authors was that it is dangerous to justify arts education in terms of instrumentality, i.e., secondary, non-arts effects: "We must not allow policy makers to justify (or reject) the arts based on their alleged power to transfer to academic subject matters."
I agree with Ed that there is tremendous potential in focusing on the creative industries through economic gardening programs. Perhaps we need to be careful in our economic development practices not fall into the same instrumentality trap--while the creative industries very well may produce economic benefits, the arts should be supported for their intrinsic value to society. I suppose I am biased, being married to an artist and art educator!
Great post!
Christine
http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev/browse_thread/thread/771d93666af9bb43?hide_quotes=no#msg_36b2e019f70bbb14On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Ed Morrison <edmorri ...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Michael: > A little background on the creative industries might be helpful. > Guided by thought leaders like Charles Landry (The Creative > City: http://snurl.com/fnhq4 [www_amazon_com] ), the Blair government in > the UK introduced the concept of creative industry clusters as a part of a > strategic framework for economic development. That was about 1996 or 1997, I > recall. > The early work might still be available on the UK government web site, but > the current incarnation of the effort can be found > here: http://www.creativeclusters.com/> The UK government's work spawned a number of local efforts in the UK, like > Creative Edinburgh ( http://www.creativedinburgh.co.uk/) in 2003 and Creative > London: ( http://snurl.com/fnib5) in 2004. > Now the creative industries are part of a number of cities across the globe > from Wellington ( http://snurl.com/fni1s) to Vienna > ( http://snurl.com/fnimj) Frankfurt ( http://snurl.com/fnirk).Hong Kong > recently announced a major push in this direction: ( http://snurl.com/fnj31) > In the US, the move toward pushing the creative industries started, not with > Richard Florida, but with the New England Foundation for the Arts > ( http://snurl.com/fnj6t) In 2000, the NEFA released a report specifically > connecting the creative industries with the region's competitiveness. (In > traditional economic development creative industries are often relegated to > "lifestyle" amenities.) Read more here: http://snurl.com/fnjc0> Florida published his book, The Creative Class, in 2002. Sadly, Richard did > not give readers much background on what had been going on in the UK, the > work of the NEFA, or the work of Charles Landry, who has pioneered much of > the practical application of this concept. (I recommend his book.) > Florida's three T's formulation -- talent, tolerance, and (I forget the > third one) -- reduces the sophistication of a creative industries strategy > to a virtually useless bumper sticker. Nevertheless, people like my > colleague George Robertson tried out some of Florida's ideas. George used > the focus on tolerance to launch a strategy to attract Guyanese immigrants > to Schenectady. ( http://snurl.com/fnju6) > As you can see, I'm not a big fan of Florida's work. While he publicized the > opportunities of focusing on creative people, his work does not offer much > practical direction. > The deeper flow of helpful critical thinking comes out of the Europe--NEFA > linkages. So, if you are heading in this direction, I recommend Landry as a > starting point. > By now, the focus on creative industries is taking hold in the U.S. We are > still five to seven years behind what's been happening in the EU. This year, > for example, the EU launched the European Year of Creativity and > Innovation: http://create2009.europa.eu/> It seems that still outside the US, the connections between creativity and > innovation are more explicitly drawn. See, for example, the Institute for > Creeative Industries and Innovation in Australia: > ( http://www.ici.qut.edu.au/) > A focus on creative clusters has also taken hold in places like Rhode Island > ( ) (Rhode Island School of Design) and Savannah: The Creative Coast > ( http://www.thecreativecoast.org/) (Savannah College of Art and Design) > and Charleston ( http://snurl.com/fnkmu ) (Spoleto) > an interesting > experiment is underway at Ball State University to establish a nationally > prominent center for digital media design in the hopes of sparking new > business development. (As the director of the center has said, "Hollywood is > rebooting.") ( http://snurl.com/fnl23 ) > Vermont has pioneered applying these frameworks to rural > communities. http://snurl.com/fnkb2 This strategy is taking hold in rural > economies like Western Massachusetts (The Berkshire Creative Economy > Project). Other places, like North Central Arkansas are beginning to explore > the option. ( http://snurl.com/fnl3t ) > Last year, Fairfax County in Northern Virginia put a stake in the ground to > be a center of creative industries in the US with its Creative Economy web > site and symposium: http://www.e-country.org/creative.htm> The Triad region of North Carolina, following the recommendations of > consultant Angeles Angelou, has placed a big bet on the creative industries. > Not to be outdone by Northern Virginia, they recently announced a National > Creativity Symposium: http://snurl.com/fnlgc> So there you have it: a brief road map of the emerging connection between > the creative industries and economic development. As you may be able to > tell, I think its a big opportunity. > In my view, focusing on the creative industries represents a good setting > for applying the tools, insights, and strategies of Economic Gardening. > Ed > On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:47 AM, MStoddard wrote:
> Chris asked how we selected the data on creative industries. Below was > our process.
> I started with these questions: "How do we quantify the creative > industry in Tacoma?" "How many employers are there?" "How many > employees?" "What categories of businesses fall within the creative > industry?" Finding acceptably accurate data on employment is > challenging. We decided to use reports available through Americans for > the Arts: http://bit.ly/NSkyi.
> The reports use Dun and Bradstreet data and include a summary table > listing the number of arts-related businesses and employment.
> We ordered the reports from Americans for the Arts, but learned that > they are not currently available. We had to go in a different > direction.
> We decided to use the definition of creative industries from Americans > for the Arts: http://bit.ly/zFBeY.
> The definition lists the SIC codes of creative industries. We used > these SIC codes to extract creative industries from a 2008 InfoUSA > table of businesses in Tacoma.
> Our arts administrator then went through each of the 700+ records and > marked the ones that were, in fact, creative industries (and still > operating). We called this the InfoUSA list. The data visualization on > Many Eyes (http://bit.ly/100FZP) is the InfoUSA list.
> The arts administrator also skimmed the entire InfoUSA table to find > SIC descriptions of creative industries that were not in the Americans > for the Arts definition. I extracted records by these codes and added > them to the InfoUSA list.
> The arts administrator found that many artists were not in the InfoUSA > data, so she started a new list that includes mostly self-employed > painters, writers, bands, galleries, etc. We called this the local > knowledge list.
> What did we learn? We learned that commonly used datasets like InfoUSA > leave out many artists. Americans for the Arts came to the same > conclusion about Dun and Bradstreet data: "... many individual artists > are not included, as not all are employed by a business" (Online > source: > http://www.artsusa.org/information_services/research/services/creativ..., > accessed 4/10/09).
> We will put the two lists side by side to show the undercounting of > creative industries in commonly used datasets (Dun and Bradstreet, > InfoUSA). We will combine the InfoUSA list and the local knowledge > list to paint a more accurate picture of creative industries in > Tacoma.
> Michael
> On Apr 9, 3:01 pm, "Chris Gibbons" <cgibb...@littletongov.org> wrote:
> Michael,
> Talk about where the data came from....how you selected it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: econ-dev@googlegroups.com [mailto:econ-dev@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of MStoddard
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:59 PM
> To: Econ-dev
> Subject: [EG] Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz
> I'm using Many Eyes to visualize data on creative industries in
> Tacoma, WA. See example below.
> http://bit.ly/100FZP
> Many Eyes is great, but I want more control over the look of the
> visualizations, specifically the labels on bubble charts. What I've
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 | From: Al Jones <aljones...@bresnan.net>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Local: Sat, Apr 11 2009 11:13 am Subject: Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz This is a tremendous summary that I haven't seen in discussions on the creative clusters. I share Ed's concerns about Florida's prescriptions. I was assigned to work on our state's creative cluster development after a cluster study by Stu Rosenberg's group was pointed that way. The Montana Arts Councils, Arnie Fishbaugh afishba ...@mt.gov, has done some very astute and creative studies on identifying who's in the arts and what their economic impact is...their definition showed people working in the arts might be as much as 10-15% of the working population. Yet I agree with you and Christine that their impact into the overall economy is subtle and small enough that it hardly seems like the cluster to start with (and it only appears to be a single cluster for about 20 minutes of discussion before it fragments quickly into relatively independent clusters-visual art, music, theater, writing, dance, fiber arts, ceramics, sculpture, architecture, furniture-making, home decor and gifts making, leatherworking, apparel design, film and tv production, advertising...) each with very different needs, training, and markets. I found at the ED levels I was unique (B.A. Art, painter, graphic designer, illustrator, calligrapher who'd partnered with rock bands, music producers, recording studios, concert promoters, talent agents, and assisted all manner of craftspeople and artists especially back in the 1980's actually running a creative incubator before we knew the term.) A. Jobs in the arts are mostly self-employment, precarious, and generally subsidized by other jobs, spouses' income and health insurance, parents and inheritances, and migrate to where there's cheap housing and workspace more than where there are markets. When you look at the sum total of the glamorous industries: Films, TV, Recorded Music, Live Performance, Paintings, Prints, High Fashion, Custom Jewelry-making, Fiction, Book Publishing, Live Theater, etc. they all turn out to be far smaller in dollars, employment, firm size, etc. than one would expect. Most industries are larger, pay better, pay more taxes, contribute more surplus than rely on surplus, etc. which makes targeting these for ED resources a reflection more of their glamour to shallow-thinking politicians who'd rather rub shoulders with a movie star than see a new portland cement plant whose taxes will pay for a dozen additional police officers for decades. Heck, the "Angel Investor" was the bored rich man or heir who liked hanging out in the theater district and investing in new plays both to have something more interesting to talk about at parties and to meet "fast women" as actresses were stereotyped at the time..."Dagwood" of the comic strip starts out as one of those ("Blondie" was a golddigging showgirl) who ends up disinherited for marrying one instead of just dallying with them...Mel Brooks "The Producers" says more about real capital formation too.
B. Florida confuses people who CONSUME the arts with the producers. Like mistaking people who wear high fashion clothing with people who make high fashion clothing. I've known hundreds of real artists and the ones who sat around in downtown cafes in expensive districts were the least serious ones, poseurs would be a more accurate description than individual engines of economic growth.
C. Working with small manufacturers and craftspeople, who are typically left out of these definitions and often disparaged quite unfairly, I gradually noticed how phenomenally creative (in the real sense of making new patterns out of old bits and pieces) they were on a daily basis while a great many in the arts create little or nothing new, repeating old established material is reliably more profitable and easier. Is a musician playing a Bach composition, a painter doing one more landscape, a theater company mounting an Arthur Miller play breaking new ground or simply tweaking someone else's creative work?
D. There's always been a strong link to where creative clusters are active to where there's a rapidly growing upper middle class and general prosperity so new patrons are emerging without existing preferences and relationships...going back at least 2,300 years as Peter Hall clearly shows in his magnificent book "Cities & Civilization" which I highly recommend to anyone thinking about cities and economic development, let alone his insights in creativity that matters (i.e. affect world tastes for generations rather than entertains someone for an hour.)
E. As the public schools and universities mostly work against creative thinking in all fields since it's so disruptive as Clayton Christenson would observe, same with arts organizations from the Les Ecoles des Beaux Arts that tried to stifle just about all of the French art innovators of the 19th Century (Impressionists, Post- Impressionists) or the Third Reich's dismay at the Bauhaus movement...say, Hitler was a painter, Mussolini a journalist, Albert Speer an architect, institutionalizing creative cluster support is almost certainly counterproductive for getting more than trivial creativity advances. So an organized effort at Florida talks about most likely stifles rather than stimulates as history indicates in many places and times (look at the rigid conventions that bound Japanese art for centuries.)
F. MIT's course on how to make/invent things, written about by it's instructor in the book "Fab" talks about how to stimulate and assist creativity in what matters for economic developers. The National Business Incubators Assoc. has an excellent guide to incubating the arts in it's bookstore and really, getting a bunch of people together frequently to brainstorm from very different viewpoints, backgrounds, and interests to cross-fertilize each others' thinking and tools is the soul of incubation and extremely productive. Look at the Royal Society of London (Isaac Newton, not the aristocrats), Franklin's Junto Society in Philadelphia, Royal Geographic Society, Bauhaus in Berlin, DaVinci's studio in Florence, the Springfield Armory in Mass., Detroit in the early days, Wall Street (where stupid people get too creative), the Texas oilfields, Cape Canaveral and the Johnson Space Center, Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center of the 1970's, MIT, Stanford, Harvard, U Cal Berkeley...
G. Two other fun ones are "Greatness" by Dean Keith Simonton and "Talent is Overrated" by Geoff Colvin with all sorts of surprising research on creativity, high performance, nurturing ability, etc... A key finding for great accomplishment in the arts was clinical depression bouts over a lifetime so maybe Wall Street is our best ally in achieving that part of the mix.
Al Jones reads too much, knows too many people, only thinks in the shower or while shaving, thinks Ed, Christian, and Christine are right just about all of the time. :-)
On Apr 10, 5:23 pm, Ed Morrison <edmorri...@earthlink.net> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev/browse_thread/thread/771d93666af9bb43?hide_quotes=no#msg_abe328510401a31a> Michael: > A little background on the creative industries might be helpful.
> Guided by thought leaders like Charles Landry (The Creative City:http://snurl.com/fnhq4 > [www_amazon_com] ), the Blair government in the UK introduced the > concept of creative industry clusters as a part of a strategic > framework for economic development. That was about 1996 or 1997, I > recall.
> The early work might still be available on the UK government web site, > but the current incarnation of the effort can be found here:http://www.creativeclusters.com/
> The UK government's work spawned a number of local efforts in the UK, > like Creative Edinburgh (http://www.creativedinburgh.co.uk/) in 2003 > and Creative London: (http://snurl.com/fnib5) in 2004.
> Now the creative industries are part of a number of cities across the > globe from Wellington (http://snurl.com/fni1s) to Vienna (http://snurl.com/fnimj > ) Frankfurt (http://snurl.com/fnirk).HongKong recently announced a > major push in this direction: (http://snurl.com/fnj31)
> In the US, the move toward pushing the creative industries started, > not with Richard Florida, but with the New England Foundation for the > Arts (http://snurl.com/fnj6t) In 2000, the NEFA released a report > specifically connecting the creative industries with the region's > competitiveness. (In traditional economic development creative > industries are often relegated to "lifestyle" amenities.) Read more > here:http://snurl.com/fnjc0
> Florida published his book, The Creative Class, in 2002. Sadly, > Richard did not give readers much background on what had been going on > in the UK, the work of the NEFA, or the work of Charles Landry, who > has pioneered much of the practical application of this concept. (I > recommend his book.)
> Florida's three T's formulation -- talent, tolerance, and (I forget > the third one) -- reduces the sophistication of a creative industries > strategy to a virtually useless bumper sticker. Nevertheless, people > like my colleague George Robertson tried out some of Florida's ideas. > George used the focus on tolerance to launch a strategy to attract > Guyanese immigrants to Schenectady. (http://snurl.com/fnju6)
> As you can see, I'm not a big fan of Florida's work. While he > publicized the opportunities of focusing on creative people, his work > does not offer much practical direction.
> The deeper flow of helpful critical thinking comes out of the Europe-- > NEFA linkages. So, if you are heading in this direction, I recommend > Landry as a starting point.
> By now, the focus on creative industries is taking hold in the U.S. We > are still five to seven years behind what's been happening in the EU. > This year, for example, the EU launched the European Year of > Creativity and
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 | From: "Jack Schultz" <jschu...@agracel.com>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:31:04 -0500 Local: Sat, Apr 11 2009 11:31 am Subject: RE: [EG] Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz Richard
Florida's top city for the creative class is San Francisco. Here is a
blog that I did about six months ago comparing stats from SF with those
of North Dakota. I'll let you guess where I prefer. Jack Schultz www.twitter.com/jackschultz
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Green Acres--ND vs SF I
was in North Dakota yesterday at the Governor's annual rural ED
conference in Bismarck. It was my 14th talk in the state over the past
four years. I've travelled thousands of miles through the state and
have constantly found North Dakotans to be some of the friendliest
people on the face of the earth. I was thrilled to be back.
As
I was driving from Fargo to Bismarck the chorus to the Green Acres
theme song kept rolling around in my head. Do you remember that show?
Green Acres is the place to be
Farm Livin' is the life for me Land spreadin' out so far and wide Keep Manhattan...just give me that countryside
So,
which would you take, ND or Manhattan? Since we're in the midst of the
Democratic Convention, I decided to compare it to Speaker Nancy
Pelosi's San Francisco. SF has been cited by numerous pundits and
writers (Richard Florida probably being the most vocal) as the ideal
city of the future.
The populations of ND and SF are somewhat
similar. SF has 764,976 residents. ND 639,715. SF has a much higher
household income at $57,476 compared to ND's $40,818, but beyond that
one stat, virtually every other stat that I looked at showed ND similar
to or superior to SF.
Both SF & ND lost population from 2000 to 2007. SF 1.5%. ND 0.4%.
Both have had a negative outward domestic migration in the past year. SF -1,112. ND -1,136. The medium age in SF is 39.6 years compared to 37.2 years in ND. USA average is 36.4.
When
it comes to families, only 44% of households in SF are married with
children compared to 64.6% in ND. USA average is 68.1%. SF has one of
the lowest school age populations in the country with only 9.4% in the
5 to 17 age group. ND is at 16.6%. USA is 17.8%.
In 2000, SF
had 611,674 jobs. By 2007 the city lost 16% of its jobs, taking it down
to 556,621. ND during the same period grew their jobs by 11% from
309,127 to 341,704.
Home ownership is really lopsided! Only
33.3% in SF own their own house vs. 59.1% in ND. USA average is 60.2%.
In the past twelve months there were 799 single family housing permits
issued in SF compared to 1,919 in the three MSAs in ND (Bismarck, Fargo
and Grand Forks). With a medium housing cost of $799,000 in SF, the
average job holder will spend 94% of their income on housing! In ND, it
will cost you 24 to 28% for that $135,000 medium priced home.
And,
how about the much higher household income in SF? They'll need it! A
$100,000 income in SF will buy you what $53,991 will in Fargo, ND.
Groceries are 27% less expensive in Fargo, as is housing at 71%,
utilities at 18%, transportation at 17% and healthcare at 18%. All are
less expensive in Fargo!
Where would you rather raise a young family?
Just give me that countryside!
http://groups.google.com/group/econ-dev/browse_thread/thread/771d93666af9bb43?hide_quotes=no#msg_a55999dc76f5816e-----Original Message----- From: econ-dev@googlegroups.com [mailto: econ-dev@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:14 AM To: Econ-dev Subject: [EG] Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz This is a tremendous summary that I haven't seen in discussions on the creative clusters. I share Ed's concerns about Florida's prescriptions. I was assigned to work on our state's creative cluster development after a cluster study by Stu Rosenberg's group was pointed that way. The Montana Arts Councils, Arnie Fishbaugh afishba...@mt.gov, has done some very astute and creative studies on identifying who's in the arts and what their economic impact is...their definition showed people working in the arts might be as much as 10-15% of the working population. Yet I agree with you and Christine that their impact into the overall economy is subtle and small enough that it hardly seems like the cluster to start with (and it only appears to be a single cluster for about 20 minutes of discussion before it fragments quickly into relatively independent clusters-visual art, music, theater, writing, dance, fiber arts, ceramics, sculpture, architecture, furniture-making, home decor and gifts making, leatherworking, apparel design, film and tv production, advertising...) each with very different needs, training, and markets.
I found at the ED levels I was unique (B.A. Art, painter, graphic designer, illustrator, calligrapher who'd partnered with rock bands, music producers, recording studios, concert promoters, talent agents, and assisted all manner of craftspeople and artists especially back in the 1980's actually running a creative incubator before we knew the term.) A. Jobs in the arts are mostly self-employment, precarious, and generally subsidized by other jobs, spouses' income and health insurance, parents and inheritances, and migrate to where there's cheap housing and workspace more than where there are markets. When you look at the sum total of the glamorous industries: Films, TV, Recorded Music, Live Performance, Paintings, Prints, High Fashion, Custom Jewelry-making, Fiction, Book Publishing, Live Theater, etc. they all turn out to be far smaller in dollars, employment, firm size, etc. than one would expect. Most industries are larger, pay better, pay more taxes, contribute more surplus than rely on surplus, etc. which makes targeting these for ED resources a reflection more of their glamour to shallow-thinking politicians who'd rather rub shoulders with a movie star than see a new portland cement plant whose taxes will pay for a dozen additional police officers for decades. Heck, the "Angel Investor" was the bored rich man or heir who liked hanging out in the theater district and investing in new plays both to have something more interesting to talk about at parties and to meet "fast women" as actresses were stereotyped at the time..."Dagwood" of the comic strip starts out as one of those ("Blondie" was a golddigging showgirl) who ends up disinherited for marrying one instead of just dallying with them...Mel Brooks "The Producers" says more about real capital formation too.
B. Florida confuses people who CONSUME the arts with the producers. Like mistaking people who wear high fashion clothing with people who make high fashion clothing. I've known hundreds of real artists and the ones who sat around in downtown cafes in expensive districts were the least serious ones, poseurs would be a more accurate description than individual engines of economic growth.
C. Working with small manufacturers and craftspeople, who are typically left out of these definitions and often disparaged quite unfairly, I gradually noticed how phenomenally creative (in the real sense of making new patterns out of old bits and pieces) they were on a daily basis while a great many in the arts create little or nothing new, repeating old established material is reliably more profitable and easier. Is a musician playing a Bach composition, a painter doing one more landscape, a theater company mounting an Arthur Miller play breaking new ground or simply tweaking someone else's creative work?
D. There's always been a strong link to where creative clusters are active to where there's a rapidly growing upper middle class and general prosperity so new patrons are emerging without existing preferences and relationships...going back at least 2,300 years as Peter Hall clearly shows in his magnificent book "Cities & Civilization" which I highly recommend to anyone thinking about cities and economic development, let alone his insights in creativity that matters (i.e. affect world tastes for generations rather than entertains someone for an hour.)
E. As the public schools and universities mostly work against creative thinking in all fields since it's so disruptive as Clayton Christenson would observe, same with arts organizations from the Les Ecoles des Beaux Arts that tried to stifle just about all of the French art innovators of the 19th Century (Impressionists, Post- Impressionists) or the Third Reich's dismay at the Bauhaus movement...say, Hitler was a painter, Mussolini a journalist, Albert Speer an architect, institutionalizing creative cluster support is almost certainly counterproductive for getting more than trivial creativity advances. So an organized effort at Florida talks about most likely stifles rather than stimulates as history indicates in many places and times (look at the rigid conventions that bound Japanese art for centuries.)
F. MIT's course on how to make/invent things, written about by it's instructor in the book "Fab" talks about how to stimulate and assist creativity in what matters for economic developers. The National Business Incubators Assoc. has an excellent guide to incubating the arts in it's bookstore and really, getting a bunch of people together frequently to brainstorm from very different viewpoints, backgrounds, and interests to cross-fertilize each others' thinking and tools is the soul of incubation and extremely productive. Look at the Royal Society of London (Isaac Newton, not the aristocrats), Franklin's Junto Society in Philadelphia, Royal Geographic Society, Bauhaus in Berlin, DaVinci's studio in Florence, the Springfield Armory in Mass., Detroit in the early days, Wall Street (where stupid people get too creative), the Texas oilfields, Cape Canaveral and the Johnson Space Center, Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center of the 1970's, MIT, Stanford, Harvard, U Cal Berkeley...
G. Two other fun ones are "Greatness" by Dean Keith Simonton and "Talent is Overrated" by Geoff Colvin with all sorts of surprising research on creativity, high performance, nurturing ability, etc... A key finding for great accomplishment in the arts was clinical depression
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 | From: Matt Kures <matthew.ku...@gmail.com>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Local: Sat, Apr 11 2009 11:48 am Subject: Re: Many Eyes bubble charts for econ data viz One of the many problems with Florida's approach is that his creative class classifications have a broad focus. Obviously, the creative class appears to be larger and have more importance if you include more industries/occupations (Florida focuses on mostly occupations rather than industries). And as some researchers have noted, some of Florida's creative class categories appear to require relatively little creativity (see McGranahan and Wojan, Recasting the Creative Class, http://tinyurl.com/d5ubgj). McGranahan and Wojan partially arrive at this conclusion by using the Department of Labor's O-NET system ( http://online.onetcenter.org/) to look how different occupations require various skill sets. Using O-NET's measures, they found that many of Florida's Creative Class occupations actually rank somewhat low in skills such as "Thinking Creatively" (http:// tinyurl.com/djdzdd). Others, such as Sir Ken Robinson (another British thought leader on creativity), would argue that everyone has the capacity to be creative, regardless of occupation or industry. However, Florida's focus on certain occupations as a potential panacea for economic/ workforce development has often created artificial silos for industries and led policy makers to craft short-sighted economic development policies. That is, many people feel that we should focus our energy on developing amenities that attract/retain creative workers and creative industries and that more traditional service and production-based industries now deserve much less attention. Because all people can be creative, and creativity falls on a continuum from a skills perspective, I feel that the recent focus on creativity should lead us to try and inject, promote, or discover creativity in all industries as a source of competitive advantage.
For those of you interested in trying to measure creative industries, I would recommend some of Ann Markusen's work at the University of Minnesota.(http://www.hhh.umn.edu/projects/prie/pub.html). A number of states have also tried to measure their own creative economies/ creative industries with varying success. See Iowa: (http:// tinyurl.com/cssscd), Maine (http://tinyurl.com/ckw2l2) and Montana (http://tinyurl.com/d5ztvp) to name a few.
Best,
Matt Kures GIS State Specialist University of Wisconsin-Extension Center for Community and Economic Development
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The State of Wisconsin is meeting the challenges ahead and understanding the importance of the creative industries in economic development.
To meet the challenges facing the state is moving forward with a public and private action agenda that uses the arts, culture, creativity and innovation -- the "creative economy" -- as essential tools for the state’s economic, educational and civic success Wisconsin has developed the following action plans. Grow Wisconsin Creatively will stimulate economic and community development, foster entrepreneurship, create jobs, enhance Wisconsin’s educational system, and sustain community livability and engagement.
For Wisconson to realize its full potential, addressing the state's participating in the Creative Economy will help them to achieve and sustain the following goals: - Stable public and private investment in economic development and community revitalization by using the state’s diverse creative resources
- Assistance by the public and private sector in the creation and retention of high-paying jobs based in the creative economy
Support of a consistently high-quality educational system using creativity in the acquisition of local and global knowledge and understanding, and prepares students for the 21st century workforce. Development of vital communities throughout the state that attract creative workers and organizations. Another model in Wisconsin is New North. What is New North? The New North is the 18 county region in Northeast Wisconsin. The New North brand unites the region both internally and externally, signifying the collective economic power behind our 18 counties. The counties include Outagamie, Winnebago, Calumet, Waupaca, Brown, Shawano, Oconto, Marinette, Door, Kewaunee, Sheboygan, Manitowoc, Fond du Lac, Green Lake, Marquette, Florence, Menominee and Waushara.
Key Initiatives of the New North: - Attracting, developing and retaining talent
- Focusing on targeted growth opportunities
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